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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
1. Thanks. I find it interesting it is focused mostly on holding an opinion and seeking information.
That tells me it is a right to make information/opinions available to others, but it is not a right to push that information/opinion. So take these rights as such:
Sharing sought after information is a protected right
Protests are not protected
Pushing information through propaganda is not protected
2. If Pointman is accurate in his description of the laws, then the laws in Russia really doesn't violate human rights since he believes the law is more or less in place to stop people from pushing information.
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1. I'm not sure how you find it interesting that it is mostly focused on "holding and opinion and seeking information" when the line CLEARLY states: "to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas of all kinds". It very clearly states receiving and imparting as equal to seeking, but however you choose to ignore certain words is up to you. Imparting is the act of communicating or conveying information to others. This is a basic human right (as outlined above) and should be taken with equal levity.
Here is the official definition of propaganda:
Noun
Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
The dissemination of such information as a political strategy.
The problem here is that Russia is not using the official definition of propaganda, and rather using their own interpretation which has not been made clear to anyone. To you and I, gay propaganda would be "being gay makes you live for ever!", in Russia, gay propaganda could be "being gay is just fine and it's ok to be gay". They are not saying it's illegal to lie to children (which is what propaganda is rooted in) but rather that it is illegal to TALK to children about being gay IN GENERAL. This is not in line with what propaganda is, but they have distorted the word for their own use.
Furthermore, as far as protests go, protests are a perceived right based on the following:
- freedom of assembly
- freedom of speech
- freedom of association
These are all basic human rights, and the problem of this law denying people of these things is what is causing this debate.
2. The problem with that is we're assuming Pointman is unbiased in his presentation of information. His "interpretation" of the law and what is occurring in Russia is one of thousands. For a different perspective on how the law is affecting the LGBT community in Russia, I'd invite you to read this article, which includes interviews from the actual LGBT community in Russia, not the opinion of one guy on CP:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...hobic-violence