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Originally Posted by Itse
Admitted, the odds of things working out are statistically not in Syrias favour, but you're making it sound like no country has ever returned to stability after a civil war or a revolution.
Should the FSA get hold of the country, they have far from the worst possible situations to start from. They have a fairly literate, decently educated mostly urban population, a lot of foreign backing available and oil (which is why they can get foreign backing).
From France to Spain to Mexico to wherever, it's quite normal that a post-revolution / civil war era is filled with really messy politics, some politically motivated bloodshed and a string of short-lived, weak governments with possibly a dictator thrown somewhere in the mix. Doesn't mean that there haven't been sides worth backing in the original fights, or that it won't go anywhere over time.
The Ennahda movement that took power in Tunis btw don't seem to be that bad. Which is propably why nobody generally hears about them in the news. I still have a lot of hope for Egypt, even with all the bloodshed.
The islamic world has a lot of housecleaning to do, it's no secret. But I believe we might have already passed the peak of radical islamist power in politics, or in any case it doesn't seem to be making any more ground. |
The traditional examples that you put as France, Spain, and Mexico had how much outside intervention?
That's the point, let them have their own revolution. It will be more organic, and thus lasting.
I watched the video's, I'd sign up right away if I thought it would help.
But better or worse, I don't think the west helps. Again, this would be different if Russia or key middle east players were on board. But they are not.
If it's a revolution as you say then they will get it done like the historical examples. And yes, there will be significant change.
But not if we force it. Has that worked AT ALL in the middle east in 60+ years? Even Israel, wherever you come out on the debate, is a mess.