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I wanted some data about gay suicides in Russia.
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2. Because Freedom of Expression is a Human Right, and this violates that.
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We are going in circles. You can express your gayness. So this law doesn't violate it. I posted a link of lesbian anthem on this very page. If you REALLY want to help gay teens in Russia you REALLY need to drop this "human rights violation" argument and go for "let's protect teens" argument to get any fruitful results.
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3. Every issue needs attention, and creating the argumentative fallacy of "x is questionable because you don't care about y" is without logic. Do you like hockey? Obviously, but you don't like every sport, so you shouldn't be cheering for hockey (see how dumb that sounds?)
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By this logic, can Russian players wear patches against inequity and violation of human rights in USA constitution? Every issue needs attention.
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Here is an interesting article for some pro-gay rights people here. It includes a link which paints a very different, but very real picture than the one Pointman is attempting to paint. Don't be fooled, while this law in Russia may seem insignificant on paper, it is encouraging homophobia and attacks on homosexuals. Be warned, graphic stuff.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...nter-olympics/ |
It doesn't have any proof on anything and the line
"Any defence or sane discussion of homosexuality is against the law"
Is simply false. You can visit sites like
www.gay.ru and
www.lgbtnet.ru to have sane discussion of homosexuality. You can also visit one of several gay clubs in Moscow (I gave the map of it some pages ago) to discuss it. This article is full of hate and lie. If you judge about russian LGBT situation by such articles, there's no wonder we can't understand each other.
EDIT: And Occupie pedofilay is not anti-gay group, they are anti-pedofilya group, as you can see by the name. They operate in small russian cities as well, as in neighbourhood countries. They "date" pedofiles in the internet, catch them in the "date" place and torture them. They are scum, of course. They should be killed. I still don't understand what on earth it has to do with this law and LGBT rights unless pedofiles are somehow LGBT now? Or do you somehow believe that what you see in that link is within the law in Russia? Article claims that "their true agenda is to associate pedofilia with gayness", but makes no argument, nevermind proof, for this claim. Since Russia apparantly hates gays, why anti-gay group would disguise that they are killing gays?
How about me doing vidoes of London riot, Paris riot, or Stockholm riot? Or Vancouver riot for that matter? What is has to do with this law, Olympics and human rights?