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Old 09-01-2013, 10:42 AM   #538
strombad
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Originally Posted by Pointman View Post
Good question. Can you actually answer it?

Still questions remains:

1. Under russian laws, if you bullied another person into suicide, you go to jail. This law applies from the age of 14. I dunno about american laws, but if you have such law and actually apply it, maybe it will help things out?

2. Why are you trying so hard to sell it as violation of human rights?

3. Why are you going for LGBT issues? Why don't you campaign against drunk driving or something? Drunk driving takes away way more lives, than teen bullying. And there are many other issues in the world, why don't you suggest to wear red cross patches, unicef patches or something?

4. Still — why Russia? Whatever you think of this law, it is obvious, that Russia is far from the worst anti-gay country in the world.... I realize, that Olympics are in Russia.
http://www.sprc.org/sites/sprc.org/f...LGBT_Youth.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2072932/
http://actionallianceforsuicidepreve...icide.html?m=1

^^^^^for your suicide references

1. So you agree that abuse of a homosexual should be heavily punished. Great.

2. Because Freedom of Expression is a Human Right, and this violates that. It's not a complicated concept you need to understand.

3. Every issue needs attention, and creating the argumentative fallacy of "x is questionable because you don't care about y" is without logic. Do you like hockey? Obviously, but you don't like every sport, so you shouldn't be cheering for hockey (see how dumb that sounds?)

4. You literally answered your own question within a couple sentences, congrats.


Here is an interesting article for some pro-gay rights people here. It includes a link which paints a very different, but very real picture than the one Pointman is attempting to paint. Don't be fooled, while this law in Russia may seem insignificant on paper, it is encouraging homophobia and attacks on homosexuals. Be warned, graphic stuff.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...nter-olympics/
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