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Old 08-31-2013, 03:22 AM   #485
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Mind sharing with us any of this scientific evidence? Never seen it before.
As I said, I'm not going into religious debate here. If you really care, you may google for it. Point was that trying to convince russians that talking about gays to their children will do no harm is similiar to trying to convince religious people that there's no god, even if you provide a lot of scientific and natural evidence on both cases.


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If the harm to children is irrelevant what is the point of the law in the first place? If it is irrelevant than there should be no laws and no issues with any gay 'propaganda'.
Point of the law is that russian parents are sick of gay propaganda beyond the boiling point.

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IMO the inability to produce children seems like a huge cop out. Kinda like 'We can't think of a great reason, so let's go with they can't have kids'. It's weak, and it opens up a massive can of worms.
I actually agree. Definition is weak, vague and not well-worded. I don't see $150 fines opening a massive can of worms though, hence I don't believe that this definition was created with plans to start gays witch hunt in mind.

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Perfect for me would be equality. So, if there is inequality I would still be against it. What would be a 'perfect' definition in your opinion?
Honestly I would struggle to come up with a perfect, loophole-free, encompassing definition for legal battles on this matter. If it was me writing the law and my job would be to come up with one, I would probably work for days on it. For the sake of debate, we can use the common sense understanding of "gays".

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This sounds a lot like the Mormon chuch...........it's okay if you're gay, just don't do anything about it. See? We're not bigots.
It's ok to be gay, just don't wave it in face of my children. Russian people are really sick of it.

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