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Originally Posted by Pointman
Is it too much to ask? Is it really such a big deal? Or is it blown out of proportion for some reason? If you are gay, why are you so hell bent to tell about it to MY children? Aren't you violating MY human rights by telling MY children things that I don't want them to hear? It's not YOUR child, so let ME raise her the way I feel is the best. This is what this law is about. Think of it as a joint declaration of russian parents that they don't want gays to put their views into the faces of their children. What's wrong with this?
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Aren't you violating my human rights by telling my children that black people are equal to white people? Aren't you violating my human rights by telling my children that hetrosexual couples are better than homosexual ones? Aren't you violating my human rights by telling my children about your religion (or lack of religion)?
Every single idea can be put into your "it's my child" argument, in either direction, which means this law needs to be expanded to include every idea that a parent could possibly disagree with (aren't you violating my human rights by telling my child that they need veggies to be healthy?!). Which just shows the whole sentiment is ridiculous.
You still haven't described the harm to children... because there isn't any. There's only perceived harm by parents who are so ignorant that they fear their children will be turned gay.
"Your Liberty To Swing Your Fist Ends Just Where My Nose Begins.", the liberty ends because to continue to swing the fist will cause undue harm, not just because the nose happens to exist. Until you can show harm (and show that that harm is worse than the harm limiting free speech has on a society), I don't see any convincing argument.
Instead it looks more like trying to find justification for bigotry.
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Originally Posted by Pointman
Am I not violating your precious human rights by asking you to not talk about wild oral sex when my 4 years old daughter is around? The same way, could you please don't talk about being gay when my four years old is around?
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That you have to stretch so far to create your scenario indicates how ridiculous it is. No reasonable person will agree that talking about being gay is equivalent to talking about wild oral sex. A heterosexual individual can talk about inappropriate wild oral sex to a child as well, where's the call for a law to limit that? I'd find it frightening that you think such situations need to be resolved by laws, but the way you intentionally formed the false equivalence just shows that it's really the gayness that's the root problem for the people who support the law.
Still wondering what your definition of "non-traditional sexual relationships" is and why an infertile black/white couple would not fall under that definition.. or have you abandoned your previous line of rationalization as it wasn't being fruitful?