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Old 08-29-2013, 01:17 PM   #337
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You are making things up.
Well obviously, it was a contrived example to attempt to illustrate the complete nonsense that the law is. Mixed race couples aren't (EDIT oops mean) are "non-traditional sexual relationships"? That's certainly been used as a reason to support racism in the past, this is no different.

I guess it all depends on your specific definition of "non-traditional sexual relationships", which is kind of the point, picking the definition which happens to go the way that fits one's particular bigotry without encompassing the other bigotry that one doesn't agree with.

Would you support this law being used to prosecute propaganda that promoted mixed-race sexual relationships? If not, why is it different?

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It is a law against gay propaganda.
It's a law to ensure that the bigotry of the adults is safely passed down to the children without being challenged.

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While, in theory, some bribed/ill-intended judge can take anything as propaganda (and I have no problem admitting that as I'm not making things up for the sake of the argument), this is not the intention of the law. For the sake of it, there are legal gay clubs in Moscow and they are running fine.
So the intent of the law is to make sure that anyone that supports equality for humans can't communicate their message and combat any disinformation that the "teh gay is bad and scary" crowd spreads. That's somehow ok? I see it as complete admission that indoctrination and isolation from better ideas is the only way to keep bad ideas.

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Here you can take a look at the map of gay clubs in Moscow. And no, I will not get imprisoned for posting it here.
You can be gay, you just can't tell any children that it's ok and they don't need to commit suicide because they're gay. Awesome.

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But why?

I respect others opinions, but I'll never understand advocating a law like this. If it is about 'saving the children', you're basically telling a gay Russian child that he/she is wrong to be who they are.
It's more about making sure that the children are indoctrinated without any alternative views to possibly "corrupt" them. The message to gay children doesn't matter, it's keeping the message that "being gay isn't bad" away from non-gay children.
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