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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
this is exactly what I am saying.
I am not against gay rights by any means, but there is a reason why such a large percentage of people in Russia are anti-gay. What that is, I don't think any of us really know, but for some reason it is something they really believe strongly in. I can't in good conscience tell them they are wrong when I do not understand why they believe so strongly in it.
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Is there a reason that could possibly justify this sort of discrimination by a state against its own people? Certainly, sometimes governments are justified in infringing on certain rights (s. 1 of Canada's own Charter of Rights and Freedoms explicitly recognizes this). However, we in Canada have been discussing discrimination against gay people for decades. Have we not exhausted the field of possible justifications at this point? What benefit could Russia's anti-gay legislation plausibly achieve that could remotely justify its discriminatory and rights-infringing effects? These are sincere questions that I think you need to ask yourself.
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
I think it's better to understand why, rather than just instantly trashing them as a culture. Look what happened the moment korzym12 said he didn't support gay rights, he was immediately attacked left right and center without a single person even trying to understand why he thinks like he does. The way he was treated is not that much different than the way gays are being treated in Russia to be quite frank, it was a disgusting display of bullying just because someone believed something different.
And then what happened? korzym12 fought back and even more jumped in and things got out of hand.
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This strikes me as false equivalence. All opinions are not equal. Korzym's opinions on this subject deserved to be attacked.
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Societies can't change until the thinking behind it changes. So until there is an understanding of why, forcing change when such an overwhelming majority are against it will just fail miserably.
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How would wearing patches on hockey jerseys be "forcing change" on anyone?