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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Can you tell me what possible end the Rebels have in bombing out Children and framing the government. They don't want any part of boots on the ground by Western nations or Arab states that are not only going to topple Asaad and impose their own government that might be equally unfriendly to elements of the rebel groups.
You could argue that it will just make more people flood to the Rebels due to a frame up. But its a step that wasn't needed because of the heavy handedness of the government anyways in terms of killing their own civilians.
You fail to understand how the leaders of these Middle Eastern States operate. They believe strongly in maximum punitive measures to cow the rebeling elements and they make it clear that if you side with the Rebels your going to pay the price.
Asaad really doesn't give two craps about the International community because he has two incredibly powerful patrons in his corner that will tie up any international response and a third in Iran that will tie up any Arab response. So International condemnation means little to him, and he's proven that time and time again.
On top of that, Asaad has a fairly massive chemical inventory. Please tell me where the Rebels are getting Sarin gas and VX gas? Also where are they getting specialized troops that you need to both deploy the weapons and operate safely in those environments?
There would be one of two ways.
1) They're stealing them from the Syrian army, If that was true don't you think that Asaad would be all over that screaming from the roof tops that he was innocent and the weapons were stolen and because control of chemical weapons is precise be able to show what stocks were stolen?
2) Your old standby of the Western powers are importing them. Well the big Western gun used to be the united States, but they've disposed of well over 90% of their chemical stockpiles under their treaty obligations. France and Great Britain have also destroyed the majority of their chemical stockpiles as well.
The major players in Chemical weapons are the Russians who still retain a significant arsenal and still continue to develop them. China who still retains a significant arsenal, Iran has held on to a lot of their stuff as well as some other Arab states, and Syria that has four production facilities and a fairly large arsenal especially of Sarin. So if your going to put in a Western Powers gave the Rebels chemicals, I want proof, and not Alex Jones or Infowars level of proof. I want actual proof that's not speculation.
Your theory makes no sense, the Rebels are already getting recruits they don't need chemical attacks since Asaad has been pretty efficient at both winning the battles but leveraging punative attacks to punish sympathizers. The Rebels don't want Western powers on the ground because they can't control who would govern. Asaad doesn't care about International scrutiny as long as he's got two members of the UN security council with Veto's on his size who one of them already has a fairly sizable naval precence in the Region. He also has one of the most dangerous Arab powers in his corner in Iran.
Your theory makes little sense to me.
If this was a crime drama. Asaad has motive, he has means and he certainly has opportunity.
Sometimes things are as they are not matter how un-exciting it is to a conspiracy theorist.
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Why would the rebels frame up the Assad regime? - to get the NATO no-fly-zone so they can kill their opposition with impunity. Just like in Libya, NATO bombs the place to the stone age and then walks away. Also, this idea that Assad is heavy handed and just up and killing civilians for no reason, ....that is war propaganda. Armed entities were embedded in the "protests" from the very beginning. Also, the anti-Assad movement has been overhyped in the West. This is not a populist movement against Assad. It would be like Canada providing money/arms to the Tea Party to overthrow the Whitehouse. This is a destabilization campaign. I have shown General Wesley Clark on video decribing how the neocon foreign policy writers have had plans to topple a handful of ME regimes, including Syria for decades now.
Of course Assad cares about what the international community thinks, as they are a threat to his power, which is always of utmost importance. His life is at stake. The US and other nations will act without UN approval if they must. You think London educated Assad is relying on the UN to keep him protected? Ha...that is laughable.
I don't know what rock you have been living under, but the rebels have been receiving training/arms for 2 years now (from NATO in Jordan/Turkey), plenty enough time to learn how to set off some mortars loaded with sarin gas or whatever material. They are getting supplies from NATO members, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan etc. This is a group that has been proven to commit atrocities, like the Houla massacre and the other (now forgotten) small scale chemical/gas attacks in past months.
Even the UN acknowledges this. Syrias chemical arsenal was said to be secured by Russian troops. They likely want to hang onto them for use against Israel.
I don't understand your logic of insisting that the Syrian army would use wmd's against rebels near the hotel where UN inspectors are actually staying.....when they flat out don't need to use those weapons to defeat the Al-Qaeda affiliated foreign mercenaries from Libya, Saudi Arabia, Iraq etc. The majority of Syrians do not back these animals unleashing hell on their relatively peaceful, secular nation.