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Old 08-22-2013, 05:18 PM   #141
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How do you feel about Trudeau actually lying about why he has changed his position in regards to legalizing weed then? Does that reflect on him in any way particularly? Do the ends justify the means in this case because its apparent Canadians would like this change? If the Cons did a sudden about face in the same direction, would there be no backlash because of the flip flop aspect?
The politician you should fear is not the one who flip-flops. Flip-flopping demonstrates an ability to react to new information (or to re-assess old information, which is why the "timeline" argument is kind of bogus).

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As for the weed thing..im all for legalizing it and whanot, but the disingenuous reasoning Pierre light has for doing so is a freaking joke.
He didn't say the charges against his brother was the only reason, did he? There is no reason to believe that he is lying. He might be, but there's no evidence for it and I find it quite improbable that after the marijuana issue came up at convention he wouldn't think about his late brother and charges against him.

This makes you pretty much the worst kind of voter (assuming you vote). A politician takes a position that you seem to actually prefer, but because he plays for the wrong team you assume that he's lying about thinking about his dead brother, and attack him for flip-flopping (a term straight out of the rebuplican handbook on demonizing critical thinking). Do you not realize the mental gymnastics you're going through as a result of cognitive dissonance between the party you've convinced yourself is the best having policies inferior to those of the party you think of as the enemy?

You then go on to create hypotheticals contrary to fact to try to make it appear like you're not as hyperpartisan as you are, when pattern indicates that with those disclaimers you are likely lying to us, and possibly to yourself as well. You will always find something to dislike about the Liberals. And if you don't, you'll make something up.

Talking to you about politics is like talking to a Christian about God. It's hard to rationalize someone out of a position when they didn't rationalize themself into it. You have belief in the Conservatives that is straight up faith.
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