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Old 08-19-2013, 03:33 PM   #647
Day Tripper
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Excuse me while I start a new off topic thread about the validity and importance of torah code.

I wonder how it compares in those areas to Youtube scouting?

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Based on some YouTube scouting he [Monahan] reminds me of Brendan Morrow. Not a great skater, doesn't have great hands, but finds himself in the right places to score. Appears to be a really good garbage man. Of recent picks, he reminds me of Nemisz. Quality junior player but with mobility issues that could keep him from being effective in the NHL. He's supposedly got character and is very coach able but his physical tools may not translate to the next level.

If they are thinking of picking a player with skating issues I would prefer they picked a kid with serious puck skills or with an uncanny knack for scoring off the rush. You can live with a poor skater if he is awesome in other areas, but if a player's biggest ability requires him to get into the greasy areas to be successful, and he can't get to those areas with regularity because of his skating, then you have a problem. I see a problem with Monahan. I think he has Greg Nemisz stench all over him.
Hopefully the Torah code outlook isn't as bleak as the Youtube scouting outlook.

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Originally Posted by New Era
Anti-intellectual? Just the opposite. Just because someone plays around with a spreadsheet and manipulates numbers does not make them an intellectual. An intellectual is someone who exercises critical thinking skills. I do not see any application of critical thinking skills to punching numbers into a spreadsheet and believing that they are a representation of the complex systems that make up a team sport where the majority of the play is considered chaos and unmeasurable to analytics. What about philosophy and psychology, both huge factors in sports today? How are these humanistic factors measured? These are actually the greatest factors that separate players and allow them to succeed at the elite level, yet they aren't considered in the models. Thinking you can replace the experience of a scout, and the understanding of the human experience that a scout brings, with a spreadsheet is anti-intellectual. I wish some of these stats nerds would apply some critical thinking skills to their projects and recognize that much of what makes a hockey player a hockey player is not measurable on spreadsheet or able to be modeled in a lab. Stats tell only half the story, and that's a false equivalency as stats don't tell 1/10th of the story, and much more attention should be paid to qualitative data from people with actual expertise in the subject matter.
I don't think you know what anti-intellectual means.

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