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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Phaneuf is one example. MC79 posted in a thread on Calgarypuck during Phaneuf's rookie or sophmore season using advanced stats. He argued that Phanuef was not one of the league's best defenders, and not Norris worthy. He argued that he was sheltered on a deep D-core and relied on the PP for points. Stating something like there were probably something like 40-50 NHL defencemen that were better then him. Well, he got shouted down by the masses for relying too much on the stats, not watching him, play, called all kinds of names, etc.. Clearly ANYONE could SEE that Phaneuf was a great defender headed towards even higher greatness.
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I'd like to see that thread, think you can dig it up?
There was a plethora of guys here, and media types who were disgusted with Phaneuf's play on his side of the blueline. Similar to PK Subban and Kris Lateng this season. I would imagine the backlash was more a typical homer backlash to an Oiler guy bringing down a Flames guy on a Flames forum.
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Schremp is another example. Stats guys were some of the first fans that rang the alarm about Rob Schremp. There were a bunch of London fans and frequent watchers of the OHL pumping up Oilers fans about how Schremp was going to be an NHL star after his big season. A few stats guys were pointing out his reliance on the PP for 75% of his points and how that probably wouldn't translate to the NHL.
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Stats guys were some of the first to rang the alarm bell about Schremp?
That's an interesting take. Anyone who ever saw him skate knew it would be a tough road ahead for Schremp. Then once you knew his poor attitude it was written on the wall. You didn't need to be a stat guy to know that.