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Old 08-13-2013, 09:37 AM   #132
J epworth
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I've no quarrel with this comment as it certainly rings true from my conversations with Jewish friends. However, it is absolutely no basis for land ownership in a world with different religions, cultures and societies. The "substance" of this claim is just as valid for the Palestinians as it is for the Israelis.

It reminds me of the line in Monty Python where the peasant notes that "strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government." It rings true in this case when you have competing cultures with separate beliefs*.


* which are both fictional baloney anyways but hey, this thread has enough problems as it is...
I get that you believe that nations aren't meant for religions, but the say you extrapolate it is a very anti-nationalism stance, and you can make the same argument against Israel then as you can for the majority of countries in the world. The fact is the Jewish people were without a place they could call their own for 1000's of years, and when the opportunity came when the people could create their own nation, they took it. You're stance on nationalism gives the same non-validity for say Poland to be a nation. Yes the Polish people want to be united and have a place they call home, but for centuries they were just a people that were ruled by other nations, until this past century they finally found stability in their nationhood.
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