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Old 08-13-2013, 12:24 AM   #457
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Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!! View Post
You are completely missing the point.

If you want a gritty defensive defenceman in the NHL, you need to start with a kid who puts up huge numbers in juniors.

Case in point; Sarich was a point-per-game player in the Dub.

The two-way All-Stars with huge numbers in juniors lose some offence when they go to the AHL/college level, and lose more when they get to the Big Show, and if there's any offensive production left at the NHL level, that's a bonus.

The gritty defensive kids who can't produce big numbers in juniors don't become gritty defensive NHLers, they become welders and car salesmen.

The gritty defensive NHLers (like Sarich) come from the junior kids who put up huge performances as both ends of the ice (like Sarich).
Calling Cory Sarich a point-per-game player is stretching the facts, a lot. He only did that in his last season, as a 19 year old. And only after being moved towards the end of the season to a better team. Not to mention playing two previous years in the CHL. He was a point-per-game player over a 46 game stretch, that's it.

Patrick Sieloff isn't 19 yet but league standards. He will play his 19th this upcoming season.

Cory Sarich had 33 points as an 18 year old in the WHL, that's after a full season as a 17 year old the year before. Please lord I hope you aren't really using Sarich as an example of "If you want a gritty defensive defenceman in the NHL, you need to start with a kid who puts up huge numbers in juniors."

Huge numbers? Larf.

Sieloff obviously has a huge season of development ahead of him but you're acting like he was playing his last year in juniors after 3-4 seasons this year, and not his first of two. Pretty bizarre fact-skewing comparing a guys 18 year old season vs a guys 19 year old season.
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