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Originally Posted by Tinordi
I don't think you know how to follow stats.
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Then I guess I'll have to sell my business and find a new career. I thought I was successful until Tinordi came along and told me I don't know what I'm doing.
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
You can't pick and choose which stats you believe in in a player when you allow yourself to look beyond them at your convenience. You've yet to provide any substantive argument outside of the stats as to why Yakupov is not a good player besides some hand waving that he has character problems.
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Yes I have - I stated that, based on my observations, he is not the kind of player you build a successful team around. Nor is he the kind of player that the Oilers need. You are free to disagree. But to say that I have not addressed it is silly
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Absolute, go ahead. That's where I get to bring in rival talk though because I detect your personal assessment is very much coloured by this.
The Oilers didn't have a need for a 40 goal guy? Which other players on that team are front line goal scorers?
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Yakupov is a 40 goal guy?
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Well that's up in the air and I point I concede. I just happen to think that the Oil will do better in a trade trading a two year NHL forward if he continues scoring like he did last year. And my basic point on risk is that Yakupov was by far the surest thing in that draft which made it the least risky move. Your point is that he's Russian and therefore more risky. I don't buy into that too much. He came through the OHL and has always said his goal is to play in the NHL. I'm sure that the interview process would have more than addressed that perceived risk.
And I guess this is the fundamental difference. I believe in BPA with first round picks always, organizational need is addressed the 364 days that aren't the draft.
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Interesting because the Flyers video demonstrated very clearly that teams don't necessarily follow the 'BPA always' mantra that fans like to throw around (while completely ignoring the fact that many different factors, as well as opinions, go into determining BPA).
And it is especially rich (the Flyers example), since you just mentioned in another thread how much you respect the Flyers as an organization because they are bold enough to do what is necessary.
Plus, trading him isn't contrary to the BPA argument anyway. Trading him acknowledges that he is worthy of being the BPA and 1st selection. Trading him simply suggests that the assets gotten in return would be more beneficial to the organization.
Anyway, this conversation has run its course. You think the Yakupov pick was the right one. I do not. Neither of us is going to change their mind.