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Old 08-07-2013, 11:46 AM   #164
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Originally Posted by ricardodw View Post
Sutter successfully coached defense first, skating non-physical d-men Odouya and Paul Martin while in NJ. They were both +21 in 2008-09 and +27 and +20 in 2007-08. They kicked in around 30 pts a year (32, 26, 33, 29).

So maybe it was not that Sutter was not able to provide a coaching environment that non-physical , good skating d-men could exceed.

Odouya who is at best is Chicago's #3/4 was a Better NHL defenseman under Brent Sutter than Bouwmeester.

Odouya --- 3.38 M for 3 years staring last year.

So you are just assuming Oduya and Bouw played the same minutes?

Remember Bouw's first season here? He played with Gio or Sarich on the 2nd pair at the start of the year. Regehr and Phanuef were the top shutdown pair. Bouw jumped out to a +14 rating 2 months into the season. Once Sutter started relying on Bouw for tougher minutes he did not keep his +- rating but was able to absorb the tough minutes and still play nearly 30 minutes a game.

Touting out +- without taking into account what type of minutes were played makes that an irrelevant stat in my opinion.
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