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Originally Posted by ricardodw
wow do you ever value that 3 minutes of extra ice time that Bouwmeester can deliver. This is delivered with 3rd pairing offence and no physical aspect to his game.
If Gio were to stop hitting altogether and clearing out in front of the net he could easily play another 3 minutes BUT he would be playing Bouwmeester style and not be effective either.
The way the Bouwmeester's supporters tell it Bouwmeester is a 30 minute d-man that controls the game...... I have never seen this version.
Lidstrom (like Bouwmeester) played 26 minutes of non-contact hockey. Do the Bouwmeester supporters see the difference that hockey IQ and passing and offensive ability that Lidstrom put into his 26 minutes?
Do you know who else delivered a lot of ice time? Anders Eriksson.... the biggest difference between Bouwmeester and Eriksson? Eriksson played a role in winning a Stanley cup with Detroit in 1998.
Both Bouwmeester and Eriksson were physically large skilled 1st round picks that can play a lot of minutes that did not play physically and do not play well in important games.
Eriksson's individual bad plays are well documented but as far as an extended suckage under pressure by someone the team counts on: Bouwmeester's games 72 through 80 in 2011-12 can be used as a class room example. He played well the last 2 games after the Flames were eliminated.
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Why are you acting like I'm a Bouw supporter? A page ago I said Cundari brought more emotion to his five game callup than Jay brought to his three and a half years here.
Brodie is the guy who's going to be thrown into the deep end, and he should be; he's the only defenseman on the roster who has a higher ceiling than he's shown. Gio is most effective as a 3 playing against secondary guys and chipping in on the PP a bit. Wideman is a PP QB who's a decent NHL defender but, like Gio, he's limited.
Brodie has it within him to be a Dan Boyle/Keith Yandle type player. He improved with every game last year. He played 26 minutes in a 9-0 loss and was even. He has tremendous upside.
All I meant was there's no point in giving Bouw's minutes to guys we KNOW can't handle it, when the point of this rebuild is to see if a guy like Brodie CAN.