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Originally Posted by valo403
You've been referencing cultural symbols or institutions, not stigmas.
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Well you only referenced my American stigmas in your response so I'll address the Canadian ones.
Do you disagree that someone outside of Canada would associate drinking Tims with being Canadian?
IE if you were walking about in the US with a Tims hat, would it be safe for someone to assume you are Canadian? Probably.
Alternatively, if you were to see someone in Canada wearing an NFL cap, would it be safe to assume they are American? No not really.
So which one is more culturally relevant? I would venture to say most people would say NFL (or american football in general) is part of US culture. IMO, having a Tims cup in your hand is as close to having a Maple Leaf tattoo on your forehead as you can get without actually having one, as far as being recognized as a Canadian goes (not that its on the same level of patriotism or stupidity).
I can see that we will probably not agree on this so we're probably going to have to drop it. But my final stance is still that Tim Hortons is a part of Canadian culture. Manufactured or not, warranted or not, its there.