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Originally Posted by valo403
You have support for that? Very few states have a pattern of increasing murder rates. In fact, based on a quick review of your own chart there doesn't appear to be a single state that has seen a significant increase in murder rates over the last 5 years recorded.
The fact of the matter is that SYG laws allow for increased use of deadly force and decreased judicial review of that use. This is a positive how?
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I just don't see that from the raw data. Once again, there's a link between high murder rates and stand your ground laws to begin with. Here's a lit of States with SYG laws:
http://globalgrind.com/news/stand-yo...n-meaning-list
Here's a list of murder rate by state and year:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha
Once again, I don't think the law relates to crime or homicide in any way though. In the USA murder, and crime as a whole, are related to drugs and poverty. Very few murders involve someone using the STY law or scenarios where one might use that law. The vast majority of murders are commited by people who know eachother (ex: husbands killing wives/girlfreinds), drug related, or the result of robbery in low income neighbourhoods. This is why about 50% of the victems of murder in the USA are black.
The biggest piece of evidence is that despite about 50% of the States enacting STY laws within the last few years, the murder rate is falling dramatically:
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
And continues to fall. We've got a situation where roughly 50% of the States have STY laws. That's not an isignificant number.