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Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan
In 1866, the 14th Amendment to the federal Constitution was passed, guaranteeing citizenship to the former slaves and changing them in the eyes of the law from 3/5 of a person to whole persons. Then, in 1869, the 15th Amendment guaranteed the right to vote to black men, with most women of all races still unable to vote.
Ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution granted American women the right to vote.
Are you kidding me?
That wasn't at all my point, but since you brought it up, I don't know if you are black but you are certainly not female.
That was possibly the most pompous comment I've ever seen so far on these boards- there are plenty of comments about women, but I am fairly certain most are made in jest and I find them funny. Your comment was made out of ignorance.
I don't dwell on this crap or what happens to other people. I try to live my life in the best way, and I try to be an inherently good person. With regards to the case, I don't think it's at all helpful in a society that is teaming with black-on-black violence in large cities, and a never-ending cycle of poverty and single parent (Mother) households, to make comments that are completely unfounded when it comes to black racial stereotypes. It doesn't help, it hurts.
Bringing up slavery is not going to get anyone anywhere- just as bringing up suffrage will not change the fact that a woman's point of view wasn't even considered until the 20th century. It's what we do now and in the future that matters- and yammering and arguing about whether Trayvon Martin was killed because he was black when there is no indication that is the case is pointless.
The bottom line is- you can't change if a person is or is not prejudice or ignorant, but you can change laws. The law doesn't state 'Only stand your ground if the person is black.' It doesn't state that a citizen can only use a handgun if a person is black. It states that there IS a 'stand your ground law' and Americans have the right to own handguns and assault weapons. We need to control the things we can change, and this situation is sad, but it has to do with the bs gun laws in place, not with the colour of either of the victims' skin.
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My comment was made in ignorance? Really? What was so ignorant about it? We are discussing the treatment of certain populations in the criminal justice system, and you're telling me that women are mistreated on the same scale (if not more based on the way you phrased it) as african american males? Do you have a basis for that? There is a massive pile of evidence that minorities have experienced disparate treatment, particularly black males. I don't recall seeing much that indicates women are mistreated outside of not being taken seriously as victims.
Bringing up slavery isn't going to get anyone anywhere? Then why did you bring it up? I certainly didn't. I also didn't say Martin was killed because he was black, and I don't think many others here have. The President also did not say this.
What unfounded comments as to black racial stereotypes were made? Can you point those out?
The bottom line is that race is a real issue and one that needs to be addressed. You seem to think that it should be ignored, or that it doesn't exist (I honestly can't tell). Changing gun laws is great, but why is it an either or?