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Originally Posted by valo403
Such as? Please enlighten me.
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There's been multiple posts in this thread, and you're welcomed to search for them, stating that Zimmerman continued to follow after the 911 call, which isn't a fact. Some have gone so far as to say that Zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, again not a fact. Or the biggest one, that it was racial motivated at all.
I don't believe you've posted a reply correcting them that those aren't facts. Possibly just missed them though.
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Originally Posted by FlamingLonghorn
Well it's nearly impossible to have "proof" that a decision was racist. However, the DA didn't decide to prosecute until a year later. The Georgia Supreme court upheld the conviction in which only one judge dissented (the black one). The jury was given improper instructions. The judge didn't allow the victims violent criminal history to be admitted. Could it have been for other reasons? Possibly, but looking at valo's actual stats it seems awful fishy. The fact is those of us who think the justice system is racially bias have an awful lots of stats to back it up. Those of you who don't like to post one case proving it to not be. All Ark2 did was prove that a court in NY is probably not racist and I don't think anyone is claiming every judge in the US is racist. In fact I would think the NY justice system would probably be one of the more progressive. All in all neither of our cases mean diddly squat. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. The stats that have been posted by valo and mean are huge studies, I will await the studies that counter them.
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I'm not naive enough to believe racism doesn't exist in the juridical system. I do believe it can be argued the extent, and the study by valo403, like it says in the article, is far from proving anything. There's small sample sizes, it doesn't take in account the class of each defendant (I'd be willing to bet those getting off are also more likely to be middle or upper class), or even the states in which the crime was committed (split up into SYG and non but that's about it). But sure racism exists, so I'll drop that.
But I think the point of
Ark2 Shawnski wasn't with racism in the courts, but racism in the media. There was no where near the attention given to the other trials you both posted, so I suppose that helps prove that. And since the trial you posted of John Mcneil could actually be argued to be racist (and at the very least mishandled) it should have been the one that garnered all that national attention, not the fair trial of George Zimmerman.