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Originally Posted by nik-
What it comes down to is he created the situation in which he felt he had to kill someone. If he hadn't of created that scenario, they'd both be alive. For this reason he should be in jail, but thanks this messed up law, he's free.
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Garbage. So getting out of your car to observe and follow someone suspicious is now a jailable offense.
so maybe those two teens that chased down a child kidnapper should be charged then under your laws?
I mean at this point under your law, its irrelevant if Zimmerman was armed or not armed.
We know next to nothing about the actual scenario that lead to Martin's death. All we know is that Zimmerman was told to break off pursuit, he agreed, we heard the sound of him as he stopped running, then we heard Martin's girl friends comment. Then we jump to a witness talking about Martin on top of Zimmerman. you don't know about the confrontation and who actually initiated it. I don't know.
But your legal theory is completely unsound. Basically any time in the next little while where someone chases down a criminal and tackles him, or breaks up a mugging and punches out the mugger, you should be enraged. You should have 60 posts in the thread screaming for jail time.
Because under your model as soon as Zimmerman left his truck, well that's the legal breaking point.
This whole thing is an unfortunate and tragic situation. Zimmerman is an idiot, Martin took what I think was a foolish rish. Its tragic that Martin a young teenager is dead. But it seems to me that in this case under the rules of law in that state, Zimmerman was found not guilty.
Until the law changes, which is something that gets reviewed due to this, that is the law.
But this thread has gotten bizzarre. As has the reaction, they seem to think and this is been argued on this board over and over again, that the law should be in place to make the victims feel better. But as has been pointed out and argued, that's not what its there for in a what do people call it, a progressive society.
The prosecution failed to prove murder 2 beyond a reasonable doubt. The courts gave the jury the opportunity to pursue manslaughter. Under the definition of the law they did a thorough job, and probably held their noses and upheld the law.
The problem to me, is this has really come down to race, and stirring up of emotions which has happened on both sides. But the courts couldn't prove racism, they couldn't improve intent.
Unless you want to get rid of beyond reasonable doubt and replace it with, close enough. Or this will make a faction of society feel better if we convict, or whatever. The justice system is the justice system.
The vigilantism is sickening to me at this point its gross and immoral and stupid. The media coverage on this was sickening and unethical. We're all caught up in the whirlwind of the emotion of it, myself included. But until there's some change in the burden of proof, until there's some proof that there was actually a civil rights violation, and not a tragic incident, bought on by a vigilant with a gun, and a kid who should have just gone home after he lost Zimmerman. This thing needs to be over, and people need to find their bearings.
Two lives are destroyed. Martin is dead and his family grieves and deals with their anger. Zimmerman will probably never be able to stop running and looking over his shoulder.
The whole thing is stomach churning.