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Originally Posted by frinkprof
I'd like to rehash the discussion of seating arrangements in LRT cars.
There's a few elements that I'm interested to hear thoughts on, drawing upon experiences with both existing cars in Calgary's system as well as examples you've experienced from elsewhere.
1. Transverse vs. longitudinal seating. Transverse is "knee-to-back" seating whereas longitudinal is perimeter seating where the seats on one side of the train face the other side of the train. Let's leave the "conversation style" seating of the oldest LRT cars out of it because no one seems to be doing that anymore.
2. Pole/stanchion/handhold placement, proliferation and types. Where is it good to have them, and where is it not. Preference for certain types (three-pronged, hanging loops from ceiling-mounted poles, etc.). Along the middle of the aisle or running up from the seats or both?
3. Bucket-style seats or straight bench or something in between with just slight grooves?
4. Fold/flip-up seats for wheelchairs? Pretty much have to have these nowadays due to accessibility standards, but any additional thoughts on these? Should they be defaulted to the folded up position or the down-position and you can fold them up and latch them?
5. Seating material? Do you prefer the more-easily-vandalized but cushier vinyl-cushion or upholstered seats or the molded plastic with less cushion?
I'd like to keep the focus primarily on the seating/arrangement topic, but any other thoughts on the customer experience of LRT cars? Noises, announcements, lighting, doors, flooring, etc.
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I think longitudinal seating is a must for capacity reasons. Nothing sours people on transit more than 3 full trains going by during rush hour on a -20 degree day. Since we're not prioritizing the tunnel, the only capacity adds we have available are 4 car trains and higher capacity cars. We'll need both.
The existing longitudinal seats are too small, and are quite uncomfortable. I'd prefer bench plastic seats with a pole every two seat widths to demarcate a reasonable amount of space for people to take up and allow sufficient hand holds. It's important in this case to allow for reasonable seat sizes so they don't all become large single seats.
I like the loops from the ceiling, but wish they were permanently fixed in place. I find currently they sometimes slide when I'm holding on to them. Also, sometimes they'll all be at one end of the pole, which isn't optimal.