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Old 07-16-2013, 09:18 PM   #987
Daradon
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Originally Posted by PIMking View Post
dont worry there are plenty of gun hating liberals here that would have tea with you guys
Hey! Us gun hating liberals still like beer!

In seriousness, and this has come up in a lot of the gun debates, I don't even think most 'liberals' here see guns as an evil that needs to be gotten away with. There's tons of guns in Canada. Some of us 'liberals' have even gone hunting, or shot handguns at ranges.

It's just we are very amazed and often baffled at the over the top love affair that many in the States have with their guns. That they equate it with freedom when it really has nothing to do with freedom. That they see it as making them safer when all the statistics and studies prove otherwise. That they value their right of not only owning, but carrying nearly anywhere, a tool designed to kill, more than the collective rights of a community.

But a bit of it goes back to the US in general. Personal rights are held to a much higher value than societal rights. You see it in the banking industry, you see in with universal medicine (or the lackof) and the social programs.

It's just the rest of the western world, has more of a balance between personal and social rights (or social responsibility) than the US does. Especially when it comes to gun laws.

In theory this is not a bad thing, but I think in practice, it has shown to be a bad way to run a society.
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