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macrov · 07-15-2013, 05:04 PM

We have no idea whether Button should be let go or not because:

1) Scouting does not equal drafting. The GM is responsible for drafting. Apparently Sutter didn't listen to his scouts very much, so you can't pin the poor drafting record on the scouting system.

Take feaster for example. He clearly wants "hockey smarts," "leadership, determination, perseverence and good strong character" and "guys who play strong 2-way games" and guys with "hockey skills."

Sutter looked for "linage / family petigree," "hard nosed players," "big stocky guys," etc.

If Button has put together a team of scouts, and the proper processes such that their scouting division does a great job of scoring and projecting players accurately on 50 attributes, but Feaster or Sutter focuses on some of the wrong attributes at the expense of others, or scores the players differently on the various attributes, that isn't Button's fault.

2) The GM manages the Assistant GM. Both responsible for managing Button, and all 3 together manage the job of managing scouting. So, there is joint responsibility of scouting.
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This is why I think Feaster and Weisbrod are amazing, and Button's team is doing their job. Feaster and co. clearly know what they're looking for (GM team building thesis), and they seem to be drafting it (so Button is doing his job b/c he is identifying these attributes accurately). And thus far, the results seem pretty good, which suggests the thesis is good. If it continues, then within in 3-4 years this team is going to have a very strong identity, that I for one can be proud of:

- guys who play hard on 200 ft of the ice
- guys with strong character traits
- guys who play for Calgary rather than the name on the back
- guys with skill
- guys with hockey smarts

If players scoring high on these traits do not create a winning team, then Feaster isn't doing his job (poor thesis)

If players the flames are ending up with do not have these traits, and Feaster is listening to his scouts, then Button is not doing his job.

Conclusion - its too early to tell if Button is competent, but the early results look promising.

07-15-2013, 05:04 PM	#219
macrov Lifetime Suspension Join Date: Oct 2010 Exp:	We have no idea whether Button should be let go or not because: 1) Scouting does not equal drafting. The GM is responsible for drafting. Apparently Sutter didn't listen to his scouts very much, so you can't pin the poor drafting record on the scouting system. Take feaster for example. He clearly wants "hockey smarts," "leadership, determination, perseverence and good strong character" and "guys who play strong 2-way games" and guys with "hockey skills." Sutter looked for "linage / family petigree," "hard nosed players," "big stocky guys," etc. If Button has put together a team of scouts, and the proper processes such that their scouting division does a great job of scoring and projecting players accurately on 50 attributes, but Feaster or Sutter focuses on some of the wrong attributes at the expense of others, or scores the players differently on the various attributes, that isn't Button's fault. 2) The GM manages the Assistant GM. Both responsible for managing Button, and all 3 together manage the job of managing scouting. So, there is joint responsibility of scouting. --- This is why I think Feaster and Weisbrod are amazing, and Button's team is doing their job. Feaster and co. clearly know what they're looking for (GM team building thesis), and they seem to be drafting it (so Button is doing his job b/c he is identifying these attributes accurately). And thus far, the results seem pretty good, which suggests the thesis is good. If it continues, then within in 3-4 years this team is going to have a very strong identity, that I for one can be proud of: - guys who play hard on 200 ft of the ice - guys with strong character traits - guys who play for Calgary rather than the name on the back - guys with skill - guys with hockey smarts If players scoring high on these traits do not create a winning team, then Feaster isn't doing his job (poor thesis) If players the flames are ending up with do not have these traits, and Feaster is listening to his scouts, then Button is not doing his job. Conclusion - its too early to tell if Button is competent, but the early results look promising.