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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
This brings back the old debate of most valuable to team vs. most valuable (see Sidney Crosby 2013).
For the record, I would build my team around Sundin before Iginla or St Louis, but I still think both of the wingers had more impressive careers.
Late 90's/early 2000s - top 10 player = No, Top 10 Forward = maybe, Top 10 Centre = Definitely
Can you rank him ahead of any of these guys?
Jagr
Sakic
Forsberg
Bure
Hasek
Roy
Brodeur
Lidstrom
Macinnis/Bourque late 90
Pronger/Niedermayer early 00
I think he slots into the top 15-20 among (in a rough order)
Lindros & Lemieux (definitely better when healthy)
Yzerman
Selanne
Recchi
Kariya
Shanahan
Sundin
Modano
Yashin - LOL, but not that different in this period
Fedorov
Tkachuk
Roenick
Late 90's - probably ahead of Sundin...
Fleury
Gretzky (still finished 4th in scoring 97-98)
Early 00 - probably ahead of Sundin...
Iginla
Bertuzzi
Naslund
IMO he has the edge on these guys in this period, but they are in the conversation too:
Hull
Francis
Oates
Mogilny
Weight
Nieuwendyk
Brind'Amour
Gilmour
Robitaille
Leclair
etc.
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I think you make great points here...I feel you under value Francis and Fedorov just a tad.