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Old 07-04-2013, 02:49 AM   #127
Dienasty
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Originally Posted by New Era View Post
Seguin was top two in total ice time for forwards on the Bruins. He was 4th for average even strength time per game, only because of the Jagr addition late in the season. He was also second on the team for PP ice time per game. So the Bruins were not holding him back. The Bruins also are not a trap team, playing an aggressive forechecking game. Finally, Seguin was given opportunity to play center but is not good enough in the face off dot to beat out any of the centers on the roster.

I want to know how you define a franchise player, because almost all of the players you listed are not of the franchise variety. Quality players, but no where near franchise players. I don't see adding any of those players to any bottom feeding team and that team immediately becomes a playoff team or threat for the cup. And yes, true franchise players are that at 21. The latest true franchise player was hoisting the cup above his head at 21. Seguin is a very good player, but he isn't a franchise player. I'd take him on the Flames for certain, but not at the expense of any of our top prospects or high end assets, especially when we are only guaranteed five years of Seguin's service before his contract ends and he becomes a UFA. I would prefer we draft and develop our players so they have a sense of loyalty to our team.
Is this a joke? Are you trying to be ironic? Can you please name franchise players to me please? If you don't think iggy was a franchise player, or naslund or the sedins, or datsyuk, zetterberg etc etc, then I do not know what to tell you. Yes there are exceptions Crosby, Malkin, toews, ovechkin, but those are not franchise players those are generational talents.

As for your argument that some 21 year old franchise player just hoisted the cup, did you not realize then Seguin has been to the finals two times in three seasons, and won the cup in his rookie season.

As for ice time, his career average is 15 minutes per game... Where are you getting you numbers from? Last year he averaged 17 so no not first line minutes in the 21 minute range.

As for him not being good enough for center... Are you kidding? They have Bergeron and krejci that is the only reason he wasn't at center, not because he isn't good enough. Both of those centers are better then any center on the flames. Not to mention how many games did he play center? I am willing to bet it wasn't more then 15 games, which is much to small of a sample size to state that he can't play there, considering it took ovechkin half a season just to switch wings this season before he produced.

As for pp minutes can you please show me that info because I can't find it. And yes the bruins are a trap team.

FYI the flames would have 6 years control as he is signed to a six year deal
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