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Old 07-03-2013, 11:45 AM   #1
Dienasty
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Default What would you give up for Seguin?

The rumours are persistent that the Flames are actively trying to acquire Tyler Seguin, my question is what would you be willing to offer?

The good:
he is still only 21 years old, which is the same age as Sven Baertschi
He is locked up for The next six years with a cap hit of 5.75m
He has 121 points in 203 games over 3 seasons, playing out of position, and buried on the 4th line his first season, once playing along side Bergeron and Marchand he has 99 points in 129 games.
He was drafted 2nd overall and has insane speed and passing ability, with his size 6'1 190 he could be the big #1 center the Flames have dreamed of
Has ample playoff experience, (two Stanley cup finals in three seasons)

The bad:
There are questions about his work ethic and maturity (however he is still 21, so what kid at that age isn't immature?
He regressed after his big sophomore season from 67 points in 81 games to 32 points in 48 games
He struggled in the playoffs to score, and was moved off his line to the third/4th line for the last two rounds of the playoffs (however he set up the game winner in game 2 of the scf and had an incredibly unlucky 1.4% shooting percentage. ( meaning he scored 1 goal on about 70 shots, his career playoff average before this year was around 10% and his regular season average career is also around 10% he should have had around 7 goals)

Decision: after weighing these factors quite quickly I see very little downside to this kid, the only concern I have is that he may have lost some motivation to play with a Stanley cup ring, and a big contract under his belt. I do think however he has plenty more to give, by playing in a hockey market, and being rivals to Taylor Hall playing in Edmonton, it could bring new life in the Taylor/Tyler debate, and athletes at that level have plenty of ego/pride.

To get a 21 year old who has already proven he can not only play in the NHL but has shown it at an elite level, knows the grind of the playoffs, and fills the hardest position in the NHL to fill an elite 1st line center, I would definitely move heaven and earth to get this guy. Now what would I give?

I assume that Boston has interest in Glencross tough guy, really good price tag, and can score goals, I assume the hardest part would be to get him to waive his no trade clause. He might be able to step in for Horton at half the price.

Now they need someone to fill Seguins spot on rw on the second line, that could be Cammalerri (with the flames eating half of his hit so 3m) thus saving the Bruins another 2.75m from what Seguin was making.

Now for the tricky part, they are going to want some youth. If it is true they want gaudreau, I am all for it. If they want baertschi, I would also have to say good bye to him. But would I trade all 4 for Seguin? I don't know. Maybe the bruins would be interested in backlund instead? A younger, cheaper way more skilled version of Chris Kelly?

Here is what I would propose to them. (assuming glencross would accept the trade.)

1) glencross+cammy (eating half his deal) gaudreau+ 2nd and 4th round picks in 2014.

2) glencross+backlund+gaudreau+ second rounder

3) glencross+gaudreau+ baertschi

Those would probably be my 3 offers. Let me know what your thoughts would be? Do you want him? What would you give? Am I giving too little? Too much?

Remember Seguin has 6 years of control, and is the same age as Baertschi.

Last edited by Dienasty; 07-03-2013 at 11:48 AM.
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