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Originally Posted by kyuss275
Maybe you should have followed the whole conversation. By no means was i saying he would get a 2nd round pick, i said that he would get picked up on waivers or get a 6th-7th round pick back.
Even if you don't think Tanguay would get picked up on waivers, i dont see why the flames had to take a worse contract back for him?
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Who cares if he would have or would not have been picked up on waivers? That is a hypothetical argument with no point. The Flames didn't trade Tanguay to get rid of him. They didn't agree to take an Albatross contract back because they were desperate. They trade him because they like Jones. You might not. But they do.
The entire clear waivers argument is really silly since neither player would clear waivers. At a minimum Calgary would have picked up Jones and Colorado would have picked up Tanguay. Silly argument.
The real argument is whether Jones is a meaningful player for the Flames. You obviously don't think so as you are arguing that getting nothing would have been preferable to getting Jones. But the Flames don't agree. And neither do I.
My rule of thumb in gauging contract values is:
6-6-6
4-4-4
3-3-3
1-1-1
6-6
4-4
1-1
5
1
Tanguay is a 2-line forward. He is getting paid just under the going rate. Probably fair given how 1-dimensional he is.
Jones is getting paid as a 2-line forward. I think he is a 3-line guy. So he is overpaid. But assuming he returns to 20-goal / 40-point form he is only slightly overpaid. He also has 2-way upside and has decent size.
If you must think of it in those terms then Colorado 'won' the trade I guess. They got the best player (maybe), are taking slightly less risk, and got more value cap wise. But I don't really care who won it.
This is a trade that made sense. Calgary needed a player like Jones. Meanwhile they got rid of a depreciating asset that didn't play like he wanted to be here anymore. They also got bigger and younger.
Colorado got back a guy they drafted and they got the type of player they needed.
So if it works for both sides who really cares who won or who would or would not clear waivers?
What I really like about this trade is that Calgary is potentially buying low. Jones had an off year in a shortened season where his team sucked and he was forced to play over his head. Meanwhile Calgary is selling high on a depreciating asset. If Jones turns it around this is a big win for Calgary.