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Old 06-14-2013, 04:21 PM   #138
valo403
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
Organic has become a way for producers to milk more money out of the ignorant consumer while at the same time only having to adhere to the standards upon which organic is regulated. Which in some cases, isn't all that much.

On the other hand, if I grow my own vegetables, and don't spray them with pesticides or herbicides, and instead choose to grow them as natural as possible, to me that is organic, and to me they taste better.

If you specifically pick out certain organic growers that adhere to stricter standards, it is possible to find a product that tastes better.

But no, blanket generalizations like organic tastes better than non-organic probably don't work.

I honestly find it strange that so many people are willing to give big food, which Monsanto is a part of, a free ride. The fact is that the methods that they use which are supposed to increase sustainability are not so sustainable in the long run. Similar to how feedlots operate, even how human beings operate with the ever increasing use of antibiotics for everything.

Roundup Ready products are to the farming industry what antibiotic products are to the feedlot industry.

In the end, it costs the farmer more because they constantly have to pay more for the newest and latest chemical to kill off the superbugs, and it costs the consumer more because the cost of farming is constantly going up. This much is pretty evident today.

Companies like Monsanto, Simplot and others don't care, because they keep turning record profits.

There are new methods coming out to use natural ways of weed control on no-till crops, but until they can be used without risk, farmers won't adopt them. Of course, Monsanto is heavily invested in making sure the farmers KEEP using their form of weed control, so you can bet that they will do everything in their power to make sure any natural method isn't promoted.

Here is a great article that talks about the pros and cons of no till, and how it affects sustainable farming for the future.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/homes...#axzz2WE7EGtsD

This thread is also strange in the fact that it seems like me and FoL, who are often accused of being far right evil capitalists are the ones who seem to promote organic farming, even at the expense of those evil capitalist companies like Monsanto.
Science please.

That's really what this thread is about, supporting claims that are based in science with actual science. Thor has done that over and over again, I haven't seen a lick of it from the anti-GMO crowd.
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