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Originally Posted by Locke
Jack Butland
Steven Caulker
Andre Wisdom
Jordan Henderson
Danny Rose
Wilfried Zaha
Thomas Ince
Jonjo Shelvey
A lot of those guys are playing first team football in the PL and have caps for the Senior England National team.
Who didnt they take to make them an under-strength squad?
In contrast, the only German player that had national team caps was Lewis Holtby.
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Spin, spin, spin. Of the folks you mentioned there is probably one, maximum two competitive full caps between them. That IS NOT a list of experienced footballers.
So ...are you saying that the Germans are all second tier players?
And who could England have taken? Oxlade-Chamberlain, Phil Jones, Welbeck, Wilshere, Rodwell
And that's not counting about 10 others that were injured and that Rose, Ince and Zaha were injured/suspended for the first game.
All I'm saying is that although their performance was shambolic they were as equally missing players through similar circumstance as the Germans. That you would try and differentiate between the two camps situations making ones performance (rightly) out to be miserable whilst excusing the other as ..... ooh, the Germans don't really want to win it is sad, pathetic and laughable all the while grasping for differentiating circumstances such as a couple of individual friendly caps .
I'm speaking as a neutral. If the English performance in this tournament is a shambles and a failure then the German one isn't far behind. Your arrogant German pride just won't allow you to admit it, or see it for what it is.