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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Fan...I just don't see Keith as instigating the events, he reacts. Undisiplined or careless? Sure. Can be goaded into retaliation? Certainly. But not "Dirty"...like a Torres or a Kasparitis where you had to question "intent to injure" in unprovoked actions.
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Mustard and Cleve...in neither case did Keith initiate the course of events...which is my point...it was tit for tat retaliation. Carter takes a couple of swings, and gets a one hander in return...Attempt to injure?
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So as long as it's retaliation it isn't dirty?
So say a player like Marchand gets hit hard by what he felt to be a dirty hit. The next time the player comes at him he ducks and flips the guy over. The player lands hard and breaks his spinal cord. Not dirty because it was retaliation? What if Keith was on a breakaway and Daniel Sedin slashes him on the wrists. Keith turns around and slashes Sedin in the face. Not dirty? What if Keith gets hip checked and is flipped over in what Keith thought was a hit at the knees. Next time that player comes near him with the puck Keith sticks his knee out and takes out that player's knee. Not dirty because it was retaliation? Like I said, does it make you feel better if we called Keith vicious or nasty instead?
Did you watch the Dreger clip of Keith highsticking Sobotka? Keith received a hard hit and deliberately high sticked Sobotka in the face. Did you watch the Chris Simon clip I posted? Simon went face first into the boards on a questionable hit from behind and Simon sought his revenge with a two-handed slash to the face. Not dirty? What if Bertuzzi's sucker punch of Moore came in the same game Moore laid that hit on his buddy Naslund? Not dirty because it was retaliation for injuring his best friend?
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Observers and fans have long said that a player must "stand up for themselves" Many players are called "soft" for NOT retaliating...and Keith is labled "dirty" FOR retaliating. Double standards seem to be in play.
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You retaliate or exact revenge by fighting back. Drop the gloves. Take the instigator penalty if you have to. You don't slash someone in the face with your stick. Challenging the player to a fight, respond by throwing a hard hit back, scoring a goal and winning the game for your team are all acceptable ways to exact revenge.