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					Originally Posted by  trackercowe
					 
				 
				You need to start watching more Penguins games then. He's much better than Subban defensively. . 
			
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Disagree, they're both gong shows. Watched plenty of Pens games, thanks.
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				And yes he can become a liability because of his offensive efforts without a doubt. 16 points in 13 games is tied for the lead with Malkin. Obviously you're often going to be a defensive liability at times when the team expects you to be a major difference maker offensively
			
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Now you're just making excuses for him.