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Old 05-27-2013, 09:52 AM   #523
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Entirely different set of circumstances does not equate to the same thing.

"I was there and saw" is a mile from "saw a video, had a chance to secure it but didnt".
Of course they are different. My point was: why do you believe that one (witness attended party) is far more reliable than the other (witness studied Rob Ford's appearance extensively prior to viewing video and then carefully viewed video multiple times in order to identify the person depicted in said video? Indeed, one might argue that the second scenario is more reliable than the first.

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There is no evidence....that is the point. There is nothing but claims of a video supposedly containing a person who looks like Ford seen by 2 reporters and some anonymous internet sensationalist. The proof would be "i was there and saw it", or "i HAVE this video that shows" (still confused as to why the Star didnt buy this thig outright).....or even "i have a person who was there and here he is and his story"....but none of those things exist to this point. Period.
I'm not sure why we must go down this road again. "Claims of a video supposedly containing a person who looks like Ford seen by 2 reporters and some anonymous internet sensationalist" = evidence. You don't believe that it is credible or reliable evidence. Fine, defend that opinion, but incorrectly claiming that there is no evidence does nothing to strengthen your argument (incidentally, neither does writing "Period" at the end of your paragraph).

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Doesnt matter what you or I are certain of or not at this point and what % of certainty you or I attach to it. Right now all we have are accusations and innuendo.
It seems to me that what you and I believe about Rob Ford's history of smoking crack-cocaine is exactly what this thread is about, no? And again, we clearly have more than just "accusations and innuendo". We have three eye-witness accounts, as well as a slew of other circumstantial evidence.

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Put it this way...I am 100% sure that Justin Trudeau has no ability to run this country based on his well documented attitude towards the West, but does that mean he should resign his position as leader?
100% certainty of hypothetical events from the future is impressive indeed.

In any event, I don't really care if Ford resigns or not. I do however believe that he very likely smoked crack-cocaine and made a series of offensive remarks regarding Justin Trudeau etc.



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What? Im not holding anyone on this forum to any standard....you can believe whatever the hell you like. I am holding the Star a to a reasonable standard however as it hasn't been able to substantiate what they put in print....yet again.
What have they put in print that they haven't substantiated? The story was very, very clear with respect to what happened.
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