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Old 05-24-2013, 01:37 PM   #357
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You are misusing the word "proof". "Proof" is evidence or reasoning which tends to prove or establish the truth of a statement or theory. We clearly already have a substantial amount of proof that Rob Ford smoked, at least on one occasion, crack cocaine.
Did I miss a picture? Where's this clear evidence that he smoked crack?
Was the movie released?

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The question is: do we have enough proof to convince you? Or perhaps the real question is this: what do you consider to be sufficient proof? A complete confession by Mr. Ford? A personal viewing of the video (although, it seems that the Star reporters are likely in a better position to recognize Mr. Ford than you would be; also, would you require that the continuity of the actual video be established before accepting it as untampered and legitimate)? What is the burden of proof in your mind?
The Star has a history of attacking Ford, they went to press with a false story on Ford that he physically assaulted a player, they hung their hat on what seems to be a bogus sexual assault story. So please tell me why there actually be a bit more of a demand on the burden of proof from the Star. Gawker is a different story, but again, what's the burden of proof on a site like Gawker, or Infowars or the billions of other blog sites that don't have a burden of proof requirement.



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Also, it seems to me that you are applying a far higher burden of proof with respect to Mr. Ford than you have to allegations regarding Ms. Redford. For example, you posted the following regarding the alleged conflict of interest in the award of the tobacco litigation file:
Maybe, but after the fact there was still enough hard physical evidence out there in terms of time lines and emails from Redford to get in to an ethics investigation.

I haven't seen any hard physical evidence to condemn a man professionally or personally. I find it very questionable that a paper that could turn their fortunes around and profit immensely from that video hasn't parted with measly couple of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Personally in this case, I think that you have to see Ford hitting the pipe and shouting racist slogans about his players for me to believe it.

I'm not supporting Ford personally, I just think that if a paper or a website is going to destroy a person's life on multiple level that they have to back up the claim beyond, our reporters saw it so you should like totally trust us.
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