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He also probably didn't have time to put on a radiation suit, as wasting any time may have caused the destruction of the Enterprise. That and the ship was in pieces, so who knows if such suits could have been located, or if they were even near the hatch. You're really looking for issues that don't need explaining there.
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I dunno, if I had radiation suits available, I think I'd keep them somewhere near where they might be useful, like, say, at the access hatch to the radioactive warp drives. I don't think it's really stretching to wonder how they don't have something in the future that we have versions of now.
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And why wouldn't you engineer a starship to survive re-entry if you can? Just for the sake of extra safety if the ship is destroyed.
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Because a starship falling onto a planet is extremely unlikely, and if it did fall, not burning up in the atmosphere isn't going to help you when the ship hits the planet. Further, even if you come up with some reason, like wanting to be able to take the starship into atmosphere when the shields are down (why?), there are big chunks of hull missing from the dreadnought so that still doesn't fly.
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I don't think that scene in particular was dumb at all. Maybe the Bayish slowdown was, but the crash was one of the bigger effects in the movie, so they had to sell the crash. Any the citizens of the city were only reacting normally before the ship hitting the city. Are they supposed to expect falling starships or something? Is that a normal event that happens in San Francisco on a daily basis?
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Spock chases Khan thru the city for a while, and nobody seems too chuffed about the giant spaceship crash once they get past the impact area.
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Really you wanted an explanation of how he was able to fund the building of the ship? Do you they need to detail it specifically? Maybe he lied to Starfleet of its true intentions, and they aided him in building it, while only mercenaries were used in powering the ship (they said he only needed a few). Maybe he got the funds to build it from private sources who believe in his cause? Does that really need an explanation? Do you really want a detailed financial record of how the ship was built, what is this Space Balls?
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Do you think some admiral in the current US Navy could get a giant supercarrier built, then staff it with his own guys and take it off on a cruise to nuke the Chinese? If that type of scenario is not credible now, what makes it credible in the Star Trek universe?
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As I said they probably didn't have enough time to check all of the transports to find out who/what was in them. They were forced to go after Kirk in a matter of minutes, which did not give them time to look around the ship or check for credentials.
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That's just not how military security works. The idea is laughable, they do similar things in movies all the time, but that doesn't make it any more likely to actually happen. This is some kind of top-secret base, not the back of the movie theatre with your buddy Jimmy holding the fire door open. You don't get onto the ship - hurried departure or not - without your credentials being checked, and, as I said, there would be defences set up to challenge and destroy unauthorized vessels even trying to get close, which wouldn't rely on "well it kinda LOOKS like one of our shuttles."
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Any why would the Klingon's go to Jupiter in search of the ship?
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A competent military assumes the worst case at all times - the point is not that the Klingons might attack, but that it's stupid to think that Starfleet, or whoever was building that ship, would not assume it might be attacked and wouldn't take measures to defend it if that did happen. Especially when Admiral Marcus, already shown to be paranoid about Klingons, is the one who set up the base.
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Spock was able to detect where he went on Kronos because of the transport device he used. He did not use the same transport device while on Earth, so how could they track him then? They didn't know his exact location on Kronos, which is why they had to search a bit for him, but fortunately he wanted to find them, and he did.
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Well that's almost credible, although why they don't use these magic transporters to go everywhere instantly instead of using a ship is another open question. I didn't remember Spock specifically saying that he found Khan by tracing his transporter at all, I think I was busy being amazed that somehow they could track one guy on a far distant planet light-years away as if it was as easy as spotting a guy on a unicycle across the street.
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The movie was already pushing two and a half hours, do you really need more exposition on the purpose of the experiment?
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If it made sense, I wouldn't, no. Random things happening to advance the plot is the very essence of poor writing, though.