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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
As for the actual wedding, I realize why the show has had to cut back on a lot of characters, but it sucks that the Red Wedding wont get the full effect of the other characters involved like the Smalljon fighting with a leg of lamb, the Mormont women who just wanted to dance, etc.
And just in general I feel like the show didn't give exactly a favourable view of Robb. The most obvious was the difference between why he married. In the books he was vulnerable after being injured and finding out his brothers had died, he caved in, and married to save Jeyne's honour (and in contrast to his father who's only blackmark was having a ####### apparently). In the show he was doing Talisa before anything happened and married because "#### the Freys what are they going to do about it anyways?. But the dealings with his lords in the show have all been pretty negative. Everyone of importance would have betrayed him practically, his uncle didn't listen, Karstark killed the children, Theon captured Winterfell, Roose and Walder killed him and his mom released the Kingslayer. Of course those all happen in the books, but there was no Umbers, Glovers, Manderlys or Mormonts shown to really have stayed loyal to him.
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Agreed, and while I suspect the portrayal of the RW will be shocking, for these reasons not near as shocking as in the books. There's a line iirc about his bannermen dying around him - they weren't pivotal characters but they were characters that just don't exist in the show for obvious reasons - Smalljon and Dacey, Manderly and Robin Flint...
Another key scene in the books was when Catelyn went to find Robb and he was in the godswood with the northern lords - Umber, Blackwood, etc - these types of scenes helped establish Robb and establish the North, and the show missed it. I understand why they did it, but as you said, no wonder Robb isn't popular.
I still don't get the Talisa thing either.