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Old 05-16-2013, 12:58 PM   #336
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Originally Posted by jammies View Post
All belief systems have intolerance folded into their nature - even if you think other people should be able to believe what they want, your own beliefs are inescapably more "correct" to you because otherwise (and obviously) you would hold a different set of beliefs. That some atheists proselytize is, therefore, expected behaviour, and has no bearing on whose arguments are objectively more convincing.

Arguments based on bad reasoning deserve to be demolished. Since many religions value tradition and have such traditional, and poor, arguments throughout their fabric, this is seen as an "attack" on the religion itself. But of what worth is a belief that cannot withstand scrutiny? Would it not serve a religion better to use such criticism to reinvent itself without contradictions and obvious fallacies? That they do not do so is why atheists not only CAN attack such beliefs, but almost feel an obligation to do so - there are things that are so obviously wrong in the context of a secular society that they are impossible to bear without loud and vociferous complaint.
I hear you, but you have to tolerate a religious belief if you claim to impose the charter of rights and freedoms in our society.

No religion can stand up to logical scrutiny. That is a simple truth. The intolerance I'm speaking of is when personal attacks get leveled. Calling somebody stupid because they have faith in something that defies logic is not stupid. It may be human nature, naivete, or done other driving force, but rarely is it a lack of knowledge or understanding.

The video, is a good example of naivete, mixed with some basic straw man arguments. It is not intelligently put together. Organized religion DOES have a large vocal group of idiots and con artists, I will certainly agree to that. Poor, disadvantaged people all over the world who lack education may represent a good number of believers, but so do many extremely intelligent people. Religions persecute more than atheists too.

However, to suggest that atheists aren't also intolerant at all is ludicrous
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