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CaptainCrunch · 05-08-2013, 02:01 PM

I think just to re-iterate, a companies filtering process usually involves several hunderd resumes being filtered down to 5 to 10 resumes and then multiple interviews. If they bought 10 people in for interviews that's probably an hour of so of giving feed back to unsuccessful candidate. So there is a time and effort thing happening there.

On top of that no HR person is going to give you the brutal honest feed back that you require, because of political sensibilities they could open the company and themselves up to things like discrimination suits or human rights violations or agism issues or whatever. Companies no longer want to expose themselves to that possibility by a vindictive failed candidate. Its the same reason why companies are hesitant to give references especially if they're negative because that can be actionable.

Any HR manager will basically state that the hired candidate was a better fit and not go into specifics.

I get some people and myself are saying that your not getting notified when your eliminated and that communication from the hiring company is poor. However remember at the same time that the hiring company is evaluating you, you should be evaluating them and if your not happy with that communication and it grinds your gears then its probably not the company for you.

You do have a right to call and ask about the process and why you didn't get the job, but they are not obligated to do anything but the basics that are laid out in their procedures guides.

As far as the paying interview.

when I worked in HR consulting the latest buzzword was counterfeit candidate, these were professional job seekers that were canny enough to get interviews fake their way into interviews and know how to talk the talk. They would have immaculate references (fake) and sometimes fake educational levels. Their intent was to get a job, get a paid vacation for a few months and then move on.

If companies suddenly started paying you would see fraudulent candidates go through the roof.

Some companies get around that with a retaining bonus instead of a hiring bonus. If you get passed the probationary period and are on your way to being a valued employee you will get that bonus.

The day of signing bonuses is slowly fading out of sight

05-08-2013, 02:01 PM	#41
CaptainCrunch Norm! Join Date: Jun 2002 Exp:	I think just to re-iterate, a companies filtering process usually involves several hunderd resumes being filtered down to 5 to 10 resumes and then multiple interviews. If they bought 10 people in for interviews that's probably an hour of so of giving feed back to unsuccessful candidate. So there is a time and effort thing happening there. On top of that no HR person is going to give you the brutal honest feed back that you require, because of political sensibilities they could open the company and themselves up to things like discrimination suits or human rights violations or agism issues or whatever. Companies no longer want to expose themselves to that possibility by a vindictive failed candidate. Its the same reason why companies are hesitant to give references especially if they're negative because that can be actionable. Any HR manager will basically state that the hired candidate was a better fit and not go into specifics. I get some people and myself are saying that your not getting notified when your eliminated and that communication from the hiring company is poor. However remember at the same time that the hiring company is evaluating you, you should be evaluating them and if your not happy with that communication and it grinds your gears then its probably not the company for you. You do have a right to call and ask about the process and why you didn't get the job, but they are not obligated to do anything but the basics that are laid out in their procedures guides. As far as the paying interview. when I worked in HR consulting the latest buzzword was counterfeit candidate, these were professional job seekers that were canny enough to get interviews fake their way into interviews and know how to talk the talk. They would have immaculate references (fake) and sometimes fake educational levels. Their intent was to get a job, get a paid vacation for a few months and then move on. If companies suddenly started paying you would see fraudulent candidates go through the roof. Some companies get around that with a retaining bonus instead of a hiring bonus. If you get passed the probationary period and are on your way to being a valued employee you will get that bonus. The day of signing bonuses is slowly fading out of sight __________________ My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!