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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Aren't you being a little kind here? Flames owners may not be as as dumb as the clown up north but since Fletcher left the organization Flames ownership group IMO has to be considered amongst the worst in the league when it comes to finding the proper people to run their business. They/King got lucky with Darryl Sutter but that's the only bright spot in over 20 years of poor ownership decisions. I personally believe Feaster/King are a total joke and have nothing on Bremner, Coats, Button and any of the other mediocre hires the owners have saddled the organization with.
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The building has been full for over 90% of King's tenure and you were one of the Posters that wanted D. Sutter out of the position more than anybody.
Has anybody here really sat down and thought of what these guys do in their meetings?
In my opinion it works like this:
1. Murry Edwards (Owner): Major decisions (trading Iggy/trading Kipper/New Building/Sportchek Zone/New Jerseys) are presented to him and he asks questions related to the reasoning behind them, before signing off.
2. Ken King (President): Resides over teams that run Hockey Operations (Feaster/Weisbrod), MultiMedia (Radio/Telivision/Web Prescence), Ticketing, Concenssions, Negotiations with all of the above, as well as any deals with the Hitman/Stampeders...probably has to sign off on HR decisions, listens to people that handle the accounting, currency trading and whatever other logistics go on.
3. Jay Feaster (GM): In charge the obvious (trades/on ice personnel moves and setting the direction of the team), gives direction to teams that Scout (NHL, each major region both international and domestic), has a relationship with the coaching staff (each affiliate: NHL, AHL, ECHL...etc, etc), cap management, logistics of schedule (travel/bookings)
4. Weisbrod (Assistant GM): Todd Button would be a direct report, as well as anyone in our video analysis team, statistics team (PUCKS) and he would have a working relationship with the scouts/coaching staffs. He would be in charge of our general direction on personal decisions and would be responsible for coming up with the "ideas" that lead to those decisions as well as managing the ideas of his underlings.
5. Todd Button (Head Scout): Responsible for direction on player picking criteria, filtering those decisions to higher ups (Weisbrod/Feaster...could be asked direct questions by the Owner/President as well during presentations) and in general would work with Weisbrod.
As far as I can tell Edwards/King are on the receiving end of information...they aren't the ones generating the ideas. You can be mad that they aren't hiring people that generate better ideas, but from the sounds of your posts you lay blame at their feet for on ice personnel decisions.
My questions is why fire King who's done a pretty good job? The building is full...the team is in the black financially, we don't have huge PR issues (that aren't related to on ice performance) and I can watch all 82games a season (plus preseason) on TV/listen on the radio. What more do you want from the guy?