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Originally Posted by Ducay
Oh geez louise, I don't even know where to start with the volumes of wrong this post is.
You know there is a reason the law and society has made ~18 the point at which you are an adult, not 13, not 15, not 16, but 18. The amount of ######ed and peer pressured things most of us did at 15 is a testament to this. I don't care if "their personalities" are "established" at 15, they're still young enough to not be fully understanding of their actions and potential ramifications. Juvenile laws exist for a reason.
You have no idea if she begged for the sexytime and then felt ashamed, you have no idea if there were 12 guns behind the camera forcing them to do this, you have no idea if these were lifesize cutouts of them and her, maybe they were all on PCP and mushrooms, or were being held by Al Qaeda. There are so many things unknown in this case, jumping to conclusions like you're doing is as ridiculous as the number of situations I could come up with.
Sure you might be right, but some girl making a rash decision to end her own life doesn't give everyone the right to ruin other people's at will.
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Lets separate some things here, mainly the name of the four youths, and whether or not it was rape or as you put it sexy time. The fact that the province is going to investigate the investigation is good enough for me, I think there has to be some oversight into police investigations for serious crimes. Lately the Police and RCMP don't have a sparkling record in terms of investigation.
However to me and I know this is going to run counter to a lot of opinions. In terms of rape, violent crimes and violent sexual crimes. Things like peer pressure are irrelevant, everyone knows that those type of crimes are or should be at the high end of no excuse punishment. Allowing people to hide behind the defense that "I was stoned", or "my friends would make fun of me if I didn't do it" are to me irrelevant. If you are that easily swayed, if your personality is willing to allow you do these horrible things then you are incredibly dangerous to society and need to be removed from it until you are not a danger.
Lets separate things a little more, your statement at the end makes it sound like the Rapists caused her death. That's a little simple isn't it. It was more the internet tough guys, and bullies and psychos that caused her death with 2 years of a soul crushing campaign. That's a whole other level of scumbagery, and after thinking about it, really Anonymous should be going after them. However Anonymous is very much a group of loose canon internet bullies.
I know that there are questions about the rape, and hopefully an oversight investigation into the RCMP investigation will lay things bare and maybe change things for the better.
I'm equally concerned about the culture of Internet bullying to the point where people take their lives. Social Media has become a mixed bag for me. In the wrong hands its become as deadly as any gun out there.
The facebooks and twitters of the world have to do a better job of monitoring this stuff and putting an end to it. They are now the most common media for bullying out there.