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Old 04-05-2013, 12:05 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by Hesla View Post
Maybe it is for the best for the Chinese to waltz in there and put in a Chinese friendly government. The people would be better off anyways. Would keep China's sphere of influence and keep the west out of it.

Edit: I mean better off than being under KJU's rule, not a democracy.
They would be better off under Chinese rule for sure - simply because the Chinese are invested in not wanting a refugee crisis to impact them.

Democracy though... If the USA was to go in there, and remove the government, do people believe North Koreans would be free? Would have a democracy? They would install another version of government that is USA friendly and would support their influence in the area, but the people would never know democracy.

Ask the people in Chile how Pinochet was ushered in. Ask the people of Iran why their democratically elected government was removed and replaced with something else...Ask basically all of South America why their elected governments were deposed in favour of dictators.

USA cries "Socialists!!!" whenever a country tries to take control of their resources. People in North America are brought up to think socialism = communism, and that it is evil. Socialism is the 'opposite' of democracy. Well, what about Democratic Socialism? Is that evil? To me, Communism = Pure Capitalism. Neither has much to do with democracy, and they both end up putting a lot of money into the hands of the few, while taking advantage of whomever they can. They are opposite sides of the same coin, and neither is 'better' than the other. I know most don't view it as such. I was brought up to 'love' capitalism. I was brought up to hate communism, which was right.. but school taught me that socialism is evil, and encompasses communism. Is this why you hate it?

I feel for the people of North Korea. China is the only country at the moment that can do something, in my opinion, without destroying millions of innocent lives. South Korea and the rest of the world have to be ready with massive relief efforts.

However, North Korea is a poor country. There is not much incentive to do anything, other than 'contain the situation'. China doesn't want to deal with it - why should they? North Korea has always been an ace in their pocket. USA doesn't want that situation resolved. The only people that want it resolved are the North Koreans, and they are too weak now to help themselves, and the rest of the world really doesn't care about them.

Sorry.. I just felt like babbling on tonight.. carry on.
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