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Originally Posted by blankall
1) We're arguing about whether he should be bought out now. Him killing his value is hardly a worst case scenario, if the other alternative is buying him out.
2) Last time he was asked to kill penalties, he was in his offensive prime and had every right to be pissed. How long does an NHL player get to be in their prime for? On average, 5? 6 years? You've asked an established offensive player in his prime to take a secondary role killing penalties, and you're surprised he's asked for a trade? Tanguay was coming off 3 consecutive PPG+ seasons at that point.
Now that his stock has fallen considerably and he's well into his 30s, you're going to get a different reaction, if you ask Tanguay to take on a secondary role. He knows what happened to him after leaving the Flames, and he's well aware at age 33 that he's not the guy anymore.
3) I don't think Tanguay is all that complacent. He's just older and not as good as he was. Hence the 3.5 million contract, as oppossed to a 6.5 million contract, which would be fair if he was still that PPG+ guy. I understand the desire to clean house. But it's not as though Tanguay's presence is goign to somehow smother the rest of the team.
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Yes it does!!
He would be okay if he was one of three small non-aggressive players the on the team that relied on skill. Like he was the first time he was here.
The Flames have Cammalleri, Hudler, Baertschi and Backlund that are not going to knock anyone over or dominate puck battles. If they are injured there is Stajan, Stempniak, Byron, Horak who play the same sort of game.
If we had Regehr, Phaneuf, Aucion, Pardy and Vandermeer on defense.... there might be room for one more skilled softer player.....
Brodie, Butler, Smith are not these sort of players..... when Gio was on the defense core above he was the softest of the defenseman.... now on the Flames he is the toughest..... He didn't grow 3 inches and/or pack on 20 pounds of muscle.