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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
No team is giving a first for a goalie playing like kipper is
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"Playing like Kipper is"
One bad goal last game. The first two are absolutely not on him. And if he went in net against Edm, with the team saying "We know Jay is gone, we will tighten up in front of you", then they leave Schultz in the slot and back away, then give Hall a clear path to the net, what does that do to any sane goalie? They must think "here we go again". Then one bad goal that can't go in does.
People are overdoing this. The knives out for Kipper are disappointing. I know the sentiment is that the team is not good, but he isn't playing well. But this year has been beyond ridiculous. Most games you can pull out two goals that are frankly not reasonable to expect him to stop. You look at a guy skating through the crease, pulling him out of position by dragging him by his pad. That is waves off more often than not, but against him, it is CP bitching about sv%
The first goal on Vokoun tonight was exactly what the Flames do to Kipper every game, more than once. Vokoun did exactly as well as could be expected
What is the typical sv% for goalies in shootouts, 50-60 percent? You can't give up 4 or 5 chances that are pretty much as high quality as shootout attempts then start looking at sv%.
I agree that Jones goal can't go in but Kipper has been playing behind beer league D. Yeah, it's that bad.
Sadly the only way to make that point is to go game by game, goal by goal and assign goat horns.
But the guy is getting a raw deal, on and off the ice. If he gets traded he will shine.