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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
I don't understand your first paragraph. I can have it both ways.
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It makes perfect sense. You can't rip on some article that has actually put in the effort of actually breaking down the numbers because you disagree with their methodology (which on it's own is justified), but then throw out baseless claims about how Patty Roy would have a save% below .900 on this team with absolutely nothing to back it up. You have no methodology to get to that number except confirmation bias and you don't see an issue with that?
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The way you can answer your second paragraph is to look goal by goal and see what happened, and ask yourself whether the Flames goalie could have reasonably stopped the goal, assessing the shot quality, etc
Again I'm not doing this for the season but anecdotally you can go through a handful of goals and extrapolate. Seems like a lot of work to prove a point.
Consider last game. Odd man rush overplayed by D, cross crease tap in, deflection off of skate, bang-bang play from behind out front on the Butler turnover. Being as the Flames only allowed 23 shots, in your world Kipper has to save 3 of those 4 or he is brutal. Which ones? This is where we disagree.
Not to mention that less than a minute or so in, he already made a save on a centering attempt from behind. And he also made some dynamite saves when the Flames were on the PK.
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You complain about methodology and then begin to extrapolate off of one game. Even you know that's ridiculous. Try extrapolating off the LA game last week and get back to me with your results.
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Yes, the team is that bad. What did Hartley say about Dallas? That they didn't earn their 4 goals, the Flames gave them 4 goals, and that the team needs to learn how to play defense.
Other teams must salivate at the prospect of playing the Flames. The perfect storm of soft and stupid D and huge holes at C. "No low percentage shots from the perimeter to pad the goalie's stats tonight, boys! We can just go straight to the net and no one will bother us"
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I never denied any of this. The defense is terrible. But the world isn't black and white. It is possible for the defense and Kipper to both be playing terribly.