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Originally Posted by ricardodw
The 2009-10 Canadians had 32 fighting majors....
All 6 of their d-men were bigger and for the most part tougher than the Flames big tough D-man Gio.
Hal Gill was playing 20 minutes a game and in the playoff run Subban played 20 minutes a game along with Georges..... ie they had a tougher guy on the ice ALL the time than the Flames ever have.
Moen, Moore and max Lapiere Tom Pyatt all played more than 12 minutes a game.
The 2009-10 Canadiens could have run this years version on the Flames clear out of the saddledome.
Glencross Gio and Iginla are the only Flames that have significant grit that play more than 10 minutes a game.
Gio and Bouwmeester are the only Flames D-men that tip the scales at over 200 lbs......
Why is Baertschi the Minors???? There are no linemates/teammates to physically provide him cover.
I like all the Flames skilled guys...Cammalleri, Hudler, Tanguay, Backlund, Cervenka.... They would all do better if they were one of 2 or 3 smaller skilled guys.
They have to "rely" on Stempniak and Stajan to play big......
If you were an opposing coach getting ready to play the Flames... what game plan would you come up with and how often would you run the Flames goalie per period.
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Dude, even you know those are all 4th line guys and it just depends on how much the coach likes to play his 4th line. The only regular (40 games or more) that averaged under 10 minutes was D'Agostini. Don't skew the stats in your favour. I would argue that Jackman, Begin, and McGrattan (or even Comeau if you really want to get down to it) all play a tougher game than those guys.
The Pittsburgh Penguins have fought 12 times all year. That puts them 22nd in the league. Doesn't seem to be hurting their chances at all. Don't like that? Chicago has fought 14 times. They seem to be doing just fine thank you. You know who has fought 2nd most? Columbus. Boy they are just lighting the league up aren't they? Fighting doesn't mean anything other than the type of team you are trying to win with. Detroit hasn't fought for years and they've been arguably the most successful franchise for 20 years. It's an old way of thinking. Yes, the Flames could have a little more piss & vinegar once in a while, but a lack of fighting shouldn't stop them from winning games.
Other team fighting stats from 2009-2010:
Montreal ranked 25th in fights.
Detroit Red Wings: Dead last.
3rd overall in fighting you ask??? That was the Calgary Flames, and we didn't even make the friggin playoffs that year.
Other stats you are skewing: Defenceman weight??? of all things...
Wideman=200 lbs
Sarich=207
Babchuk=200
Butler=196...are you really worried about 4 pounds?
Smith=197
The only guy that is undersized even a little is Brodie at 182 lbs. and he's been arguably one of our best defenders this year.
The only logical problem you point out is a whole line of undersized guys, such as Tanguay, Cammalleri, and Hudler. Don't know if that line has ever been out there.
Glencross/Stajan/Stempniak
Tanguay/Cammalleri/
Iginla
Comeau/Backlund/Hudler
McGrattan/Begin/Jackman
This has been our lineup for the most part of late. At least one physical winger on every line...next!
That's it. I'm done.
