[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Just before Lanny takes this discussion any further into the abyss...

Into the abyss? How so? By explaining the American motivations of playing India against Pakistan? Yeah, that's the abyss.

Here is the most pressing reason the US would like India onside.
India and Iran finalise gas deal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4089382.stm

With a billion customers and economy that looks to be rising for the forseeable future....yes they have a lot of pull with the Iranians.

Other than that it is always nioce to have the future biggest economy on your side.

WTF??? How does this deal help the United States in any shape or fashion? The United States is no longer an export economy, its a consumer economy. WTF does America make that Indians can't get elsewhere, and cheaper? Yeah, a developing economy is going to over-pay for inferior products from America. Brilliant thinking.

If anything this is a solid deal for stability in the region. Geo-politically this will give leverage to Pakistan. Iran and Pakistan are very close and Indian dependency on Iranian natural gas gives Pakistan a potential pressure point they can exploit. The most ironic thing is that this deal aids in the stabalization of a region that America has been the key player in destabilizing. Is there any wonder why 87% of respondents to a Time magazine international poll said The United States was the greatest threat to world peace?

And don't count the Indians on America's side. They have long been an ally of the Russians and continue to be so. As I pointed out, the deal swung with America was nothing more than a fall back position should Mussarif get assassinated and ISI take over the government. Its all a balancing act right now as America continues to try and manufacture support in a region where they are considered the greatest of all evils.

As for Japan: ehem...yes they were "negotiatiing" for a peace deal. They were basically ****ing around hoping the mounting casualties would make the US give them a better deal. A invasion of Kyushu island would have cost millions of lives and they hoped the US would tire and sue for peace rather than demand unconditional surrender. The bombs hurried things along and saved millions from certain death.

Pull your head out of your ass. The Japanese will had been crushed by the fire bombings of Tokyo and it was only a matter of time before the government folded the tents. The Japanese were the ones that had the mounting casualties. The Americans were building up steam and moving better than expected. The turning point of the war was the Battle of Guam, and Japan was scrambling to hold off "the sleeping giant" they had awoken. I mean, it was obvious the Japanese were in a position to play possum, using suicide missions to try and inflict damage on the Americans at this point. The Americans knew this, the Japanese knew this, and the Americans were waiting for the Japanese to capitulate. The Japanese government was trying to figure out the best way to save face and not end up falling on their collective sword. They were down to making home run swings with every pitch that was made. The dropping of Little Boy was more than enough to force the Japanese to surrender and everyone knew it. That is why the Soviets jumped in and declared war two days after the fact. They hoped to share in the war spoils, which the Americans wanted no part of. That is why Fat Man was dropped. Force the emporer to his knees and tell the Russians to backoff. If you want, I can send you plenty of game tape from the history channel that explains this fully.