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Originally posted by Daradon@Sep 27 2004, 11:14 AM
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@Sep 24 2004, 05:56 PM
I'm not sure I follow you, Daradon, but here's what I'm thinking you are saying....
The voter logs, which lists all registered voters for each precinct, are present at the polling locations and each voter is checked off as they vote. However, there is no information about race on those logs. It lists your name, address, possibly sex (not sure about that one) and party affilliation if any (for primary purposes). There is nothing indicating who is what race.
Are you suggesting that people are following voters into the booth to examine the ballots and label it as a black or white ballot?
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When you go to pick up your ballot they they can tell which race you are. Perhaps the numbers on the refused ballots are estimated, but that's why they want an overseeing force on the voter stations. A UN sanctioned overseeing body that has visual confimation. I doubt (even if they are exaggerated) that these statistics come from nowhere. If you saw people geting rejected at your polling station, you'd take notice and remember race wouldn't you? Even if race doesn't register in your mind, you'd be able to tell the difference between black and white if asked to recall.
Besides, all those details are waiting somewhere in the databases to be cross referenced. Are you telling me that you don't think people can go through the registration of who voted and who didn't and find out race? How long ago was it that you had to declare race on income tax? (Or maybe you still do?) Irregradless, it's on any government sanctioned ID which is easily pulled up.
I'm not suggesting anyone is following anyone. I'm suggesting that it's easy to follow who weren't able to get their ballots, espeically if they are going to complain about it.
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You're missing the point.
Someone would have to follow you into the booth and watch your ballott from the time you left until the time it was rejected to know those details in relation to the BALLOT...which is what is in question here.
I have no doubt that with my SS# or name they can find out all the info they want about me and every member of my family. That does not mean that they know which ballot is mine after I've voted. In fact, that is impossible without extremely illegal action. [/b][/quote]
No I think you're missing the point...
I'm talking about cases where they were banned FROM voting. Before they cast ballots. There have been more than a few reorts about this. When I was talking before I realise I hadn't made THAT distinction. But in the post you quoted me just above I DID say...
''m suggesting that it's easy to follow who weren't able to get their ballots, espeically if they are going to complain about it.
Weren't getting their ballots would probably suggest that they had NEVER gone to the booth...