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Old 02-27-2013, 11:44 AM   #51
Mean Mr. Mustard
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Originally Posted by rubecube View Post
Yet you completely ignore the chemical and biological factors behind mental illness. Do you seriously go up to someone with Parkinson's and say "Quit twitching, you ####ing #####. You have the free will not to?" How about a schizophrenic. "Hey, dumbass, you're only have frightening hallucinations because you're letting it happen to you."

You can call it a difference of opinion, but yours is anecdotal, and generally refuted by science, thus ignorant.
Obviously there are different mental illnesses and there isn't one solution that fits all cases, especially with a topic as complex as depression. In the case of schizophrenia it is a biochemical disorder which is exasperated often by social situations including social isolation. With regards to depression which also can result in suicidal ideations while there are biological aspects associated with the disease it is much more complex than that. To just say that someone is depressed because there is some wiring wrong with their brain doesn't really delve any deeper into the societal constructs that are associated with the disease and rather treatment is focused on an individual level. The effect of human interaction on mood and behaviours is widely known as is the case with social isolation... although it is a chicken and the egg situation.

I think that those who do commit/attempt suicide do view it as there being no other options left and that there is no choice other than suicide (even if there are exceptions to that, usually involving alcohol), in that case I agree that they don't view there as being any other choices... however there is still the options to get help, going to an emergency department, calling a help/crisis line, going out for a walk and clearing ones head and in that case I do think that there is some degree of choice with one's actions.
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