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Originally Posted by Cheese
These split titles amuse me. I am atheist pure and simple, I have absolutely no belief in a God or Gods.
A theist on the other hand is one who believes in a God or Gods and an Agnostic is a fence sitter who either cannot make up their mind about a religion or is too lazy to do the work to determine which side of the fence they would like to sit on.
If an atheist believes that after death there is nothing and a theist believes there is some form of heaven or hell, what does an agnostic believe there is? Bullhorns? Hockey songs?
One of the definitions of an agnostic is "unwilling to commit to an opinion about something".
At least a theist is taking a side and is willing to commit to it.
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I'm a theist because I believe in God, but I'm not absolutely certain. What's wrong with that?
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Originally Posted by photon
Atheism/theism and agnostic/gnostic sit on separate axis, agnostic doesn't sit between atheism and theism.
Most theists are in fact agnostic theists because they don't "know" in the sense that they can't prove it to anyone, they just feel they're right.
Or http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mTQMZdLU_j...v%2BTheist.png
So an agnostic atheist would say they don't believe, but would say that it's possible to be convinced if more information came available (or would say that they don't believe and that the truth is inherently unknowable). A gnostic atheist would say there is enough evidence to say for sure that there is no god.
Of course one has to define god too. I'm almost 100% certain about the god of the Bible, less sure about other more vague definitions of god. |